Posted 3/21/2010 4:40 pm
Yeah thats right, Boudica is a Celtic name, it sounds pakistani but i assure it is Celtic. Boudica was a Celtic tribal leader in old Britain, she could could drink 10 pint of guiness and shagg 10 blokes ate any one time, she was known for shagging horses as well!
Posted 3/21/2010 6:43 pm
When did the Yugoslavs morph into Macedonians. Yugoslavs translates into southernslavs. South slavs have nothing to do with Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians.
Posted 3/21/2010 7:51 pm
Northern Greece is where the Macedonians dwelt and that is where the ancient Celts dwelt as well, at the right bank of the river danube.
There must have been some form of interaction between Greeks and Celts in ancient times, the music posted above plus the kilt worn by Celts and fustanella worn by Greeks.
Ancient Macedonians were certainly not Slavs, not Yugoslavs nor any other sort of Slav, the ancient Macedonians were Greek Hellenes for sure, but they interacted with the ancient Celts as well.
Posted 3/21/2010 8:32 pm
Slavs are not a racial group, more a linguistic grouping of various ethnicities! The Russ [Russia] were a scandanavian people originally!
Posted 3/21/2010 9:25 pm
I read the whole 9 pages, this is serious shit way to serious for this forum, what happens now, will the greeks send in the modern version of leonidas to kick slav butt.
When i advance in battle, you shall.................Follow me!
If i stumble and fall in battle, you shall..........Leave me!
If i retreat in battle, you must....................Kill me
Posted 3/22/2010 4:55 pm
The whole point is to keep with what we know already, mainstream history should not be altered changed or rewritten on the basis of unfounded theories ideas or conjectures, which is what is being advanced by Fyrom's slavic professor's.
The international academic fraternity support and endorse the mainstream view that alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians were an integral part of the Greek Hellenic collective of peoples as a whole. Slavs entered the eastern roman empire [Greek Byzantine] imperial teritory during the Slavic incursions of the 6th century A.D.
Any diversion from the above recorded and established mainstream view shall not be entertained without the academic seal of approval.
Posted 3/22/2010 5:25 pm
The idea that alexander the great was something other than Greek is daft, plain silly. These Fyrom slavs are a disgrace to the rest of the Slavic countries. Slavic peoples are proud of their Slavic heritage, why aren't they [Fyromians] proud of their's.
Posted 3/22/2010 6:19 pm
Nationality Language Ethnicity and their usage in today's Modern and Complicated World.
Individuals can self declare / Identify as they wish.....within legal constraints and common sense parameter's.
As an "Individual", you have the right to self express and declare as you wish, provided that it meets with all the legal obligations, criteria and of course one does not liable one's self or other's in that due process. As an Individual you can allocate yourself any Name you wish.
FYRoM as a Nation does Not have the same rights befitting an Individual.
Human rights and the rights of modern people to self express (Nationally) as they wish, is no longer considered viable or even appropriate in the face of strong academic arguments in favour of the rights of existing indigenous [Greek Hellenic] peoples, who already use that Macedonia(n) name in the regional geographic context.
The People of FYRoM declaring themselves Nationally as Macedonians, is problematic and confusing, Macedonians already exist, they are Greeks and they have been residing in that same region and they have been using that same Name since time immemorial...Modern Greeks can Prove it!
FYRoM's Nationality, Language and Ethnicity shall have to find a Suitable Name....a name that will properly describe and Identify it's disparate peoples, their ethno origins and where best they fit in today's modern and complicated world.
Macedonia(n).....when this Name is used, it refer's to Greek Hellenic people by default, courtesy of world academia [The World Body of Knowledge].
Greeks can Prove that Macedonians have always been Greeks, from the dawn of time untill the present.
The Greek Nation can Not Allow a NoN Greek People to Adopt or Usurp Greek Hellenic Names, Symbols, History and Heritage without consequences!
Show me a Serious Minded Modern Politician, that will put at Risk Damaging his / her's Political Credibility and Integrity, Arguing against World Academia over the use of a Greek Hellenic Name by a NoN Greek People fantasizing about their biological closeness to Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians.
Posted 3/22/2010 6:32 pm
Slavonic peoples have been noted under many different Tribal names, spanning many different time frames and era's, the one thing academia is 100% Certain of......Slavs were Never Ever known as Macedonians. Macedonians are Greeks just like Spartans are Greeks and just like Athenians are Greeks.
Posted 3/22/2010 7:31 pm
Most learned people remain perplexed, they do not understand the Reasons or the Motives, why a Slavonic people would even want to use a Greek Hellenic name to self Identify with.
The Sinister use of a Greek Hellenic Name [Macedonia] for self Identification purposes, by a NoN Greek people, is increasingly viewed by global politicians as suspicious and problematic.
Why a Slavonic people would even want to contemplate the use of a Greek Hellenic Name for language use, ethnicity use, and nationality use remains a mystery, global politicians are right to be sceptical and right to be suspicious.....the reasons and the motives have not been fully understood and neither have they been explained properly.
FYRoM has lost credibility, the sympathy and the support it once solicited from a substantial number of global politicians has all but disappeared.
After almost two decades.....global politicians have been fully briefed on the backround and the historical use of the Macedonian name. They are aware of it's Greek Hellenic origins and attributes.
The ex Yugoslav republic.....FYRoM's reasons and Motives remain Suspicious!
The Onus is on FYRoM to compromise in order to find a suitable Name for itself, a Name that will properly describe the country it's people and their history....and Most importantly a Name to be Proud of, this is what the Greeks are asking for, this is what global politicians expect and this is what the world is waiting for!
Posted 3/22/2010 8:33 pm
Greek Hellenic history is being held hostage to propaganda by slavdoms rogue scholar's and pseudo historians. Ignorance and apathy have given way to Slavic and Turkic propagandist's who's skills and talents are much sought after for their unique professional abilities.
Slavic and Turkic propagandist's would have us believe that FYRoM's disparate peoples are the true modern descendants of the Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians, whilst they would argue that modern Turkic peoples are the modern descendants of Paris and the ancient Trojans.
Turkic propagandist's with some external support have even gone as far as to suggest that the modern Turks are biologically related to the ancient Etruscans making them [Turks] indigenous autochthonous native peoples to Anatolia.
Now.....Ignorance and apathy may not care or even give a damn expressing an opinion this way or that way, but learned people can not standby passively watching whilst these Slavic and Turkic rogue scholar's and specialist propagandist's corrupt pervert distort and contaminate ancient [[Greek Hellenic][European]] history.
The International academic fraternity are sending out a clear message to Slavic and Turkic pseudo historians and specialist propagandist's........
World Academia shall challenge anything and everything which belongs outside the boundaries of the mainstream norm.
Academic clout and dynamism shall protect and defend the virtues of recorded and established academic reference points!
Posted 3/22/2010 8:58 pm
It has become apparent to modern politicians that a crystal clear definative answer must be sought, in order to distinguish and clarify Authentic Macedonians from other's who just want to use that Name for Self Identification purposes. So here is a Plain and Simple Guide.
Q...Who is a Macedonian ? A...A person residing in the historic ancient region of Macedonia.
Q...What is a Macedonian ? A...A person of Greek Hellenic Stock, Originating from the historic ancient region of Macedonia.
Q...Why Only Greek People can be Macedonians ? A...Because the Original Authentic Macedonians were from Greek Hellenic Stock.
Q...When did Macedonians become Greek ? A...Macedonians have always been Greek Hellenic People, from the dawn of time untill the present.
Q...How did Macedonians show their Greeksness ? A...Ancient Macedonians left Their Calling Card wherever they went, as if They Knew that one day in the Future, Their Greekness might be questioned, so they left Their Calling Card......Carved into Stone for the World to See Their Greekness.
Who...What...Why...When...How....Macedonians have always been Greek Hellenic people since the beginning, since time immemorial!
Macedonia(n)...when this word is used it refer's to Greek Hellenic People by Default......courtesy of World Academia [The World Body of Knowledge].
Posted 3/22/2010 9:06 pm
To call or name a slavonic language after a Greek Hellenic name is plain and simply wrong and against academic principles and disciplines.
