Posted 3/7/2010 6:12 pm
Academia [The World Body of Knowledge] exist's to Certify or Reject Bold Assertions and Exotic Claims, providing that they meet stringent the criteria set by academic principles / disciplines. There is a need for these checks and balances to be in place in order to protect us from Absurd Claims and Exotic Assertions advanced by groups or individuals harbouring Complexes and delusions. Academia is needed, Required for the most Obvious of Reasons, therefore it's Findings Must be Acknowledged and Respected.
Slavdom through FYRoM, Disrespects the Findings of Academia [The World Body of Knowledge]. FYRoM and it's Wanton use of Pseudo History, advances Bold Assertions and Exotic Claims regarding Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians. Slavdom Issued a Vitual License giving FYRoM the Green Light to Proceed with it's Perversions Distortions and Corruptions of Established Recorded Mainstream Ancient European History.
FYRoM's Rogue Scholars and Pseudo Historians have Intentionally Blurred the Distinction, Achievements and Contributions Ancient Greeks made to World History, making it impossible for the less well educated to be able to differentiate the Greek Contributions from the Slavic. The Relationship between Hellenism and Slavdom, their Respective Accomplishments and Achievements, their Contributions to World History remain Seperate and Distinct.
Hellenism is Distinct from Slavdom in Ways best Explained by the International Academic Fraternity, the Worlds Best Scholars. Todays Greeks are the Sole and Legal Modern Representatives of the Hellenic Legacy. No Other Modern People on this Planet are Closer to the Ancient Hellenes and Their Legacy than todays Modern Greeks. Todays Greeks Take Seriously Their Moral and Legal Obligations Towards Hellenism.
Slavdom Insults Modern Greeks, Slavdom Insults World Academia.......simply by keeping quiet on the subject of Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians. Senior Slavs, Slavdoms Scholarly Elite have a duty, a Responsibilty to properly educate their own Kinsmen about Modern Greeks and Hellenism. In Europe we must All be on the Same Page when it comes to Learning about our Common Ancestors and our Common History. Lets Start Using our Common Sense and Basic Human Intelligence. World History was not Written Yesterday. World History has been Cross Referenced, checked and double checked to be in Synchronization with, and in Agreement with the World Body of Knowledge. Slavdom and Hellenism need not Clash Over Macedonia.
Slavdom through FYRoM seeks to play politics with the Inventors of politics.
Greeks.....The Inventors of Politics, seek to protect their Hellenic Legacy.
Posted 3/7/2010 6:35 pm
In the absence of Academia, people are free to say and do as they please, but there are limits. Without Academic Reference Points,common sense constraints and parameter's, people are free to:
1.....Say Crazy Things
2.....Write Stupid Things
3.....Print Silly Things
4.....Distort the True Meaning of Things
5.....Corrupt the True Meaning of Things
6.....Pervert the True Meaning of Things
Now we can understand and appreciate the necessity and the importance of Academia. Academia [The World Body of Knowledge] exist's to verify and endorse facts, only then do they get written, only when there is agreement amongst the Worlds Top Accredited Scholars and Academics.
Macedonia(n) is a Greek Hellenic Name....This is an Academic Reference Point. When the Name Macedonia(n) is used, it refers to Greek Hellenic People.......by Default.
Slavic Educators, Scholars, Wise men and politicians can Resolve the Name Dispute today if they wanted, but they Intentionally choose not to. They allow Unqualified Pseudo Historians to Corrupt and Distort Established Recorded Mainstream History without Confronting them or Correcting the Misinformation which uses the good name of Slavdom in Vain.
The Allure of Alexander the Great having Slavonic Origins and through FYRoM, Slavdom becomes somehow connected to the peoples of antiquity is bait so Enticing, that even the most Flimsiest, the most Dubious Material Evidence is Sufficient to keep the Mysticism Alive for Sinister Political Reasons and Motives. Is this what we want to teach Slavdoms youth. The Lure of Alexander the Great having Slavonic origins was the bait, Ancient History the Trap. Slavdoms pseudo historians took the bait and trapped themselves in an endless historical debate they were inevitably destined to loose.
Slavdoms Rogue Scholars and Pseudo Historians Currupted and Brainwashed their Youth beyond Repair, they have Destroyed the Lives of their children, students and pupils, poisoned their minds with vile, vehement and virulent anti-Greek propaganda. In the Face of Such Overwhelming Evidence in support of the Greek positions, only a Hardened Propagandist or a Severely brainwashed Individual could deny the Greek Hellenic Credentials and Identity of Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians.
Slavic Logic has displaced Common Sense. We got stuck on Alexander the Great and the Ancient Macedonians for so Long, a Definative Answer is sought, a Crystal Clear Answer, a Clinical Incision is required, one that will seperate and Distinguish Greek Macedonians from Other's who seek to usurp a Greek Hellenic Name exclusively for themselves. Ethnicity, Language and Nationality shall have to find an alternative name in order to Identify FYRoM's disparate peoples.
FYRoM uses the Macedonian Name Under False Pretenses......Today's Greeks can Prove This at any Legal Setting.
Macedonia(n) by Deception is NOT Macedonia(n) at all. Macedonia Void of it's Hellenic Elements is NOT Macedonia at all.
Posted 3/7/2010 10:04 pm
Yugoslavs or any kind of Slavs, had nothing to do with the ancient Macedonians of antiquity. Alexander the Great and the ancient Macedonians were an important and integral part of the Greek Hellenic collective of peoples as a whole.
Yugoslavs or any kind of Slavs belong to the Slavic collective of peoples. Hellenism is distinct from Slavdom in ways best explained by world academia [The world body of knowledge].
Posted 3/8/2010 7:20 am
Alexander is a Greek name, Macedonia is a Greek name. Slavs go find your own, stop claiming other peoples identities. Identity theft is a criminal offence.
Posted 3/8/2010 4:40 pm
What nonsense is this, Macedonians are Greeks nobody else can be Macedonian, and why would they want to, after all it's a Greek name.
There remain of Europe, first, Macedonia and the parts of Thrace that are contiguous to it and extend as far as Byzantium; secondly, Greece; and thirdly, the islands that are close by. Macedonia, of course, is a part of Greece, yet now, since I am following the nature and shape of the places geographically, I have decided to classify it apart from the rest of Greece and to join it with that part of Thrace which borders on it and extends as far as the mouth of the Euxine and the Propontis. Then, a little further on, Strabo mentions Cypsela and the Nebrus River, and also describes a sort of parallelogram in which the whole of Macedonia lies.
Macedonia is bounded, first, on the west, by the coastline of the Adrias; secondly, on the east, by the meridian line which is parallel to this coastline and runs through the outlets of the Nebrus River and through the city Cypsela; thirdly, on the north, by the imaginary straight line which runs through the Bertiscus Mountain,100 the Scardus,101 the Orbelus,102 the Rhodope,103 and the Haemus;104 for these mountains, beginning at the Adrias, extend on a straight line as far as the Euxine, thus forming towards the south a great peninsula which comprises Thrace together with Macedonia, Epeirus, and Achaea; and fourthly, on the south, by the Egnatian Road,105 which runs from the city Dyrrhachium towards the east as far as Thessaloniceia. And thus106 the shape of Macedonia is very nearly that of a parallelogram.
What is now called Macedonia was in earlier times called Emathia. And it took its present name from Macedon, one of its early chieftains. And there was also a city Emathia close to the sea. Now a part of this country was taken and held by certain of the Epeirotes and the Illyrians, but most of it by the Bottiaei and the Thracians. The Bottiaei came from Brete originally, so it is said,107 along with Botton as chieftain. As for the Thracians, the Pieres inhabited Pieria and the region about Olympus; the Paeones, the region on both sides of the Axius River, which on that account is called Amphaxitis; the Edoni and Bisaltae, the rest of the country as far as the Strymon. Of these two peoples the latter are called Bisaltae alone, whereas a part of the Edoni are called Mygdones, a part Edones, and a part Sithones. But of all these tribes the Argeadae,108 as they are called, established themselves as masters, and also the Chalcidians of Euboea; for the Chalcidians of Euboea also came over to the country of the Sithones and jointly peopled about thirty cities in it, although later on the majority of them were ejected and came together into one city, Olynthus; and they were named the Thracian Chalcidians. http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/hopper/text?doc=Strab.+7.7.1&redirect=true
Posted 3/8/2010 4:57 pm
A plan for the formation of a new Balkan state—federated Yugoslavia—was announced officially from Moscow last week. A new chapter in Balkan and European history had begun.
Scarcely a month had passed since the Red Army entered Belgrade. Sappers had removed 4,158 mines, 7,270 unexploded bombs, 76,298 live German shells, most of the hidden German soldiers. Partisan boys drilled in streets over which stretched banners emblazoned with new Yugoslavia's red star, Russia's hammer & sickle. Big pictures of Russia's Stalin, Yugoslavia's Tito stared side by side from every shop window. The grey-clad troops of the Red Army rolled ceaselessly toward the Hungarian front in U.S. Lend-Lease trucks. Overhead, Russian Stormoviks and Yaks roared.
Empty Symbol. At the gate of the Royal Palace, fierce, shabby Partisans mounted guard. But the palace was an empty symbol. Young King Peter, exiled in London, might never live there again. Boys & girls of the Serbian Anti-Fascist Youth Congress chanted: "We don't want Peter, we want Tito." Said Tito: "Old Balkan differences will never again appear in the Balkans."
Advice by Moscow. For three weeks the Partisan National Liberation Committee had been busy creating, on paper, the new Yugoslavia. Twice Tito had flown to Moscow, conferred with Stalin and the People's Commissar for Foreign Affairs, Viacheslav M. Molotov. Last week a plan for the reorganization of Yugoslavia was evolved:
Yugoslavia would consist of six federated, autonomous districts (Serbia, Croatia, Slovenia, Bosnia-Herzegovina. Montenegro, Macedonia), each with its own local government, schools, customs.
Over the six local governments would be a central government, with a cabinet of 28 members, including the governors of the six districts. Tito probably would be Prime Minister.
Until Yugoslavia was fully liberated, King Peter's interest would be protected by a regency. If Yugoslavs voted against King Peter's return, as Tito expected they would, the regency would automatically end.
Approval by Moscow. With this plan in his pocket, British-supported Dr. Subasich flew, not to London for the approval of Prime Minister Winston Churchill, but to Moscow for Stalin's O.K. After three days of Kremlin conferences, Stalin approved. Said the official Soviet communiqué: "The Soviet Government welcomes Marshal Tito's and Prime Minister Subasich's efforts to unite all truly democratic national forces ... and to create a democratic, federative Yugoslavia."
Promptly, Marshal Tito promised amnesty to all the Chetnik followers of General Draja Mihailovich (against whom he had fought since 1942) who surrendered before Jan. 15. Tito also ordered 2,000 industrial and commercial enterprises, several banks, 30,000 farms nationalized.
Territorial Demands. The new power at once began to expand. Yugoslav Macedonians insisted that Yugoslavia's new Macedonian district should include not only Bulgarian Macedonia but Greek Macedonia.
Said Bulgarian Prime Minister Kimon Georgiev, whose country is controlled by the Red Army and Communist-dominated Partisan bands: "I can definitely state Bulgaria will create no difficulties." But Greek Macedonia is the richest of all Greek provinces and includes the big Aegean port of Salonika.
Already aging Dr. Josip Smodlaka, Tito's Foreign Minister, had exchanged sharp words with Italy's Count Carlo Sforza over Yugoslav claims to Trieste, Istria, Gorizia, awarded to Italy after World War I (TIME, Oct. 30).
If the plans for a federated Yugoslavia went through, it would emerge as the strongest state in the Balkans. A Balkan Federation to include Bulgaria and Rumania was a likely next step. Before the Big Three met again (see U.S. at WAR), Russia's political control of the Balkans would be consolidated.
Posted 3/8/2010 5:11 pm
Macedonia(n)...when this word is used, it refer's to Greek Hellenic people by default.....courtesy of world academia [The World Body of Knowledge].
Macedonians have always been Greek Hellenic people, since the dawn of time untill the present.
Slavic People have been noted under many different tribal names spanning many different time frames, ages and era's.
The one thing world academia is 100% Certain of......Slavs were Never Ever known as Macedonians.
Macedonians were / are Greek Hellenic people, End of Story!
I was in the allumni once, i got my zipper caught in the hand drying machine, and the rest.....well don't ask! they chucked me out, i lost my membership of a very elitist allumni club all because i wanted to air my dick in one of those super fast jet hand dryer's!
Posted 3/8/2010 5:33 pm
I have actualy done it, it's not easy but once you position yourself right up against the machine, you have to twist round and insert the weena directly into the aiflow, it was a disaster.
The air jets were so powerful, my weaner got the full force of pressure from both sides, it hurt so much i screamed, then the doorman came in to envistigate.
My court case comes up on the 26th March for having unprotected sex with a hand drying machine.
Posted 3/8/2010 7:07 pm
The original Macedonians were an aggressive and turbulent folk of Hellenic stock, responsible for one of the world's great (if ephemeral) empires. What follows is a record of the Hellenic state, together with the subsequent development of the area, and ending with a record of the southern portions of Macedonia which are now once again in Greek hands. http://my.raex.com/~obsidian/soubalk2.html#Macedonia
As if FYRoM could pull the wool over academic eyes!
The Evidence is Overwhelming.
Posted 3/8/2010 7:37 pm
The citizens of Fyrom are a mosaic, a reflection of the ethnic make-up of the Balkan region in general, this is accepted and understood.
The problem we have today is that a newly established Balkan statelet wishes to adopt a Macedonian National Identity, this is not a big problem in itself, but what has made it a big problem is the want to usurp the regions ancient history and heritage, disregarding world academia and other's in that same region that have been using the Macedonian name to self identify with in the regional geographic context, for millenia.
The foolish contradictary distortions and falsifications of the regions ancient and recent history, has escalated what was originaly a bilateral problem, to one that has become an international problem, forcing the worlds politicians to ponder the meaning of "ethnicity" and it's application in today's modern and complex world.
The name dispute has dragged on for too long, the best part of two decades have passed, what has been acheived....?
A whole generation of Slavic youth, both at home and abroad have been brainwashed "beyond repair" wasted years, taught to hate and despise everything Greek Hellenic, for them , and only for them "Hellenism" is a loaded, where Greeks are not to be trusted and for some of them, modern Greeks do not even exist....in their eyes!
A whole generation of FYRoM youth have been raised on pseudo history, home grown Ideas theories and conjectures advocating a perverse distorted corrupt ethnogenesis origins myth. The youth of FYRoM have been brainwashed beyond repair, the consequencies of this will manifest itself later in years to come, and weigh heavily on the new countries collective conciousness for generations to come.
The collation of FYRoM's X files are almost 20 years deep. Everything that was ever written, both old and new will be made readily accessable to the new generation. Fyrom's Rogue scholars and Pseudo Historians have gone to great lengths in order to erase and detach the Greek Hellenic Identity of the ancient Macedonians so that they could insert or superimpose their own Slavic Identity on them. This has caused the pseudo historians and specialist propagandist's many problems, the most serious being a withdrawal of sympathy and support from a great many quarters.
Ancient European history will not be revised nor rewritten in order to appease FYRoM's revisionist historians. Ancient Macedonian history is inextricably linked to the Greeks, this remains the current established recorded mainstream view, therefore....European ancient history remains unaltered and unchanged.
Macedonians have always been Greek Hellenic people, from the dawn of time until the present. Macedonia void of it's Greek Hellenic elements is not Macedonia at all. Macedonia(n) by deception is not Macedonia(n) at all. FYRoM uses the Macedonian name under false pretenses and the Greeks can prove it!
Posted 3/8/2010 8:31 pm
Are the modern Slavic Macedonians descended from the Greeks and Alexander the Great?
by James Mayfield (Chairman, European Heritage Library)
1) Less than 5% of modern "Greeks" are in any way, share or form genetically related to the old Greeks. In other words, 95% of you are Afroasian bastards, just like your "Serbian" (read Anadolian) butt-brothers.
2) The Slavs moved to the Balkans in the VII century. AYRTS, IA, to believe that the people who lived there prior to the Slavs' arrival simply evaporated? Of course they took on the language, parts of the culture and religion and mixed.
3) Croats, Bosnians and Montenegrins are only nominally Slavs. In fact, most of them are Illyrians/Dinaroids and carry the only European genome, together with the Scandinvians. Genetically speaking, they are the whitest race in Europe (and the world), unlike the "Serbs" who got bastardised throughout five centuries of Turkish occupation, and the "Greeks" who got bastardised by anyone passing by and expressing a wish to get laid.
4) Due to 1-3, the "Greeks" and the "Serbs" have an illusion of grandeur, which is to compensate for their hubmle, bastard heritage. This is why, apart from a retarded and morbid religion, they tend to stick together and run together, when the going gets tough.
this is wrong!
this is right!