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Corporate Greed to the extreme - when outsourcing engineers overseas, have the gook replacements get degrees in Amerikka!

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Posted 8/26/2009 8:28 pm

. said:This is definitely a factor. A college buddy of mine went to grad school at CalTech for Engineering and I remember him saying that the vast majority of the grad students in his department were foreigners; only a small handful (including himself) of the grad students were Americans. And I believe the number of students majoring in Math, Engineering, Computer Science and the hard sciences (Physics, Chemistry, etc.) at the undergraduate level has steadily dropped over the years.

Engineers get brutalized in economic downturns, and often never work in their field again. Think Michael Douglas in Falling Down. You fall behind just two or three years at the wrong moment and you're obsolete. The telling moment in Falling Down was the cop looking at the drafting tools in D-FENS room. He didn't learn CAD-CAM, so he was shit out of luck.

Word of this has got back to the young students deciding on a major. Engineering has a reputation for being incredibly difficult and providing no job security.

If you want an insecure career why not go into some financial bullshit and hope to ride a bubble to the top?

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Posted 8/26/2009 8:38 pm

Suck it, middle class.
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Posted 8/26/2009 9:31 pm

. said:Tariffs would fix it.

This is the correct.

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Posted 8/27/2009 6:04 am

I work for a large (American) technology company. I'm an engineer. Our higher management mentioned on multiple occasions that the biggest issue they foresee is the number of engineers graduating in the US. Also as a multi-national company we need to expand in other markets and decentralize our R&D. So now we have developments centers in half dozen countries and many like myself live remotely.

So I think on Intel's part, they are reducing cost, but also in order to compete in other markets (remember there are other markets outside the US) they need to expand outside, find engineers, lower cost etc... it is part of the business.

If it was easy as keeping jobs here, the government would have somehow made it difficult for US companies to hire outside, but then how do you deal with multi-national companies? and how about US products that sell overseas. This is a very complicated problem. We do need jobs here for sure, I agree. How do we grow the job market? I think one way is to develop technology here. See that many of our students in the US earn college degrees. Fund research etc.. Cost of living is just one factor in the equation.

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Posted 8/27/2009 6:18 am

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If it was easy as keeping jobs here, the government would have somehow made it difficult for US companies to hire outside, but then how do you deal with multi-national companies?

You get American citizen educated managers and engineers and send them to the overseas operations, where they can hire the locals to do the shit work, then send most profits back to the US.

The way it used to be. It used to be very difficult to hire "outside".

You don't import foreigners, educate them here, and send them back with American educations, all tax free and even subsidized by US taxpayers.

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